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Love and Insecurity

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Not long ago, I fell in love with a beautiful woman. Gently, we became a bit closer. She rejected me, right at the moment, when I was SURE that we had just opened up for each other, and I thought I could FEEL the love she also had for me. At first, my mind reacted with complete disbelieve. It told me that this must be some kind of error. Something within her must have closed down, she might be just not able to face the love and affection for her. When the rejection was confirmed, it really hurt. I was left with the pain of feeling cut off something really precious. And I couldn’t escape facing some of my deep-rooted believes around love and relationship. Which turned out to be a great opportunity for development.

 

Confronted with the pain and that huge question “what does all that mean??” echoing in my mind, I started an investigation. As my teacher had suggested it again and again, in my contemplation, I tried to rest on the mere sensation, following its trace inside. What was that deep longing I felt all about? That longing for RESONANCE, for resonating on the same wavelength of love and affection, for SHARING experiences, feelings, discoveries, insights ... This desperate urge to take part in the experiences, in the inner world of the other one, and let the other one take part in my experiences, insights, inner world. And the firm believe that this kind of sharing is actually possible.

Looking closely, I began to understand that my perception of my "loved one" was based on a whole bunch of assumptions and interpretations. I began to understand that the fact that I have an experience of bliss in a certain moment, or even the notion of consonance, does not imply in any way that the other person experiences the same or even something similar at this moment. It’s just an interpretation of something I see, hear or sense, based on my own feelings and anticipations. And even if she would have a similar experience, the conclusion made from the experience is very likely a very different one. Deductions like "oh, this feels somehow blissful and uplifting, what a perfect foundation for trying a relationship!" or, "wow, there is a strong physical resonance as well, this confirms our emotional and spiritual bondage!" are just constructions of my own mind and have nothing to do with the other person in the first place.

After a while of looking closely it became obvious that, in fact, I am fundamentally alone in a sense. Even in the most intimate situations. Even when I feel so close. We all are alone with our own experience. By interacting, I stimulate certain feelings, thoughts and mind patterns in the other person, which then manifest in a certain way, which is again interpreted by me. Sounds complicated and I'm pretty sure it actually is. But chances are that all this is far away from a real "understanding" as I meant to experience it.

Now, all this is not COMPLETELY new for me, but the whole extent and the vast implications were not obvious to me. (Maybe for you, the reader, it’s all pretty apparent.) From this viewpoint it is a miracle that even the most basic communication, let alone a "love relationship" works at all in the slightest way. It leaves us pretty fragile, uncertain, thrown back on our own. And I remember that I have heard that before in one or another comment of a teacher. Fortunately, for most of the time I am able to see that insight as a kind of a breakthrough, a liberation from foggy stuff impeding my view. But there are also moments when I feel very lonely and completely isolated.

Trying to fully understand and accept this – where exactly does my deep longing for RESONANCE then come from? Well, I suppose in this regard I'm still on my way to find an answer. But there are at least some assumptions, some first insights. Maybe there is a deep knowing about the possibility of boundless love within me, which shows as that longing for unity. Then there is very likely a deprivation of affection, reaching back to my early childhood. But there is also this fundamental feeling of just not being WHOLE, of having to affirm my own wholeness through another living being, who then receives my special affection. This one will probably not finish before I find my own “completeness” through insight and meditation.

Reflecting on this, "by chance" I stumbled across a teaching (see below) by Dzongsar Khyentse, a comparably young teacher with a refreshing and pretty unorthodox way of teaching and looking at things. And in this talk he says very clearly that the way we approach relationships is very much based on insecurity. Our insecurity makes us look for the “right” partner to live a romantic tragedy – which is doomed for failure, otherwise it wouldn’t fulfil the criteria for a romance. He goes as far as to say that there is no such thing as successful communication – there is only successful or unsuccessful miscommunication. When the misunderstanding does NOT work, we have a good time. And he says, in Buddhism there is no such thing as “sharing” – you can do your best to describe your experience, but in the end you have no way of knowing the experience of the other person.

In a way, I feel relieved to hear this. Makes it look like I’m not on the wrong track with my reflections. At the same time it doesn’t throw a very gentle light on love relationships at all. Hearing this, one could actually be very happy if one has successfully AVOIDED being in a love relationship. And there are quite some days when I actually feel like this. But then he also says, when a relationship comes to you, you shouldn’t fight it either. Be confident and let it flow. And it often comes from the least expected direction, at an unexpected moment.

So, it seems like there is again no place for extremes, no need for another homemade drama. Looks like it’s best to be open and meet courageously whatever happens. Being always aware that we can only share the insecurity. And, knowing all that, keeping a good sense of humour.

P.S. The talk I refer to, you can find on http://www.khyentserecordings.org/namo/Podcasts.html It’s the last one in the list (No. 18).

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+5 # Stephanie 2012-04-29 17:53
Hi Christian thank you for so openly sharing what sounds like a painful (but familiar) experience.

It's a bit like being completely bewitched, under some sort of a spell isn't it! The only positive side effect in my experience is this sort of thing is the only thing that really shifts KILOS - weight loss big time! Forget weight watchers - infatuation and heart break are the best diets.

I also listened to the teaching you talk about.....for me DKR was using relationships (cos they're the place we usually get so attached) to highlight the impermanence of human life, the suffering of samsara etc.

If I remember rightly he linked relationship to karma saying when the karmic wind blows people together or apart, it's pretty hard to stop it. Being a mother I can say attachments and projections crop up just as much in the parent role as in the "partner" role......


But then if there were no-one in our lives we were close to, how could we really work with our own stuff? I for one find it a lot easier to be "nicer" to people I don't really know - and of course those you live with see it all!

ps) Interestingly, that physical feeling of "being in love" kind of blissed out feeling can (I am told) also be experienced through certain types of meditation....s o perhaps it's the label we put on the feeling that's the problem, rather than the feeling itself? (maybe that's why some people marry themselves!)
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+3 # Christian 2012-04-30 00:11
Dear Stephanie,

thanks for your response/commen t! Yes, you're right, quite familiar, this kind of "bewitchment"! But I can also see differences - kind of a spell-evolution ! ;-) This time, for the first time I could actually WATCH myself MAKING the person into that object of desire. Human mind and especially visualization is really powerful!! -- this gives me great hope for my Vajrayana practice! :-)

Regarding the weight loss, I can't really add experience -- because of some strange reason my body tends neither to increase nor to decrease in weight significantly. At least ONE thing I don't have to bother about ...

Regarding DKR: I really like the part where he describes how he imagines a Buddhist marriage ceremony and how he would say to the couple, "well, always remember impermanence... ". I also like his statement that there is more likely a DIVORCE ceremony in Buddhism than one for marriage. His humor is just amazing!

Being not in the parent role myself, I imagine that attachments and projections must be tested even stronger than in the relationship-pa rtner role. And it's a life-long role, a life-long commitment -- no "security exit" like we tend to have it from a love relationship...

Yes, and I completely agree, if we wouldn't crash into these really close people, we would learn so much less! Probably we need these "enlargement mirrors" because we tend to ignore all the others ...;-)

Best -- Christian

p.s.: Regarding the bliss feeling, it sounds as if you had some own experience. For myself, I'm pretty sure that the kind of unity I'm looking for, probably cannot be found in the relationship field.
p.p.s: who are those people who marry themselves ...?
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0 # Stephanie 2012-04-30 23:25
Hi Christian I seem to remember reading about someone getting married to themselves - It was somewhere in the US I think!;) Maybe California? ;)

Seriously though - that's pretty impressive that you were able to keep the space to watch yourself as you did in such an emotionally charged situation. :)
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0 # Isabel Haber 2012-05-01 13:35
Christian, thank you very much for your sharing and for the words you found! I felt deeply touched ... some of my obsessive questions about love relationships dissolved while reading :-)
Lookin forward to see you in May:

Isabel
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0 # Christian 2012-05-01 13:53
Dear Isabel! I am glad it helped you in reflecting on your own personal obsessions... It's good to feel not so alone with all this, isn't it!? Our fears manifest in many different ways and strange behaviour, but at the end of the day we all seem to have the same fears.
Look forward to see you soon as well! -- Christian
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0 # Christine 2012-05-02 18:14
Dear Christian. Thanks for so openly sharing a very painful experience.On that most people including myself go through. Your dharmic response to working with the situation is inspirational.
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0 # Christian 2012-05-02 22:23
Dear Christine! Yeah, I'm really grateful that I have the teachings and that some of them seem to leave slight traces in my mind ...;-) Hope you can see through your own painful experience ... Hang on and use it to increase your insight -- what other use would it have!?
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+1 # Stefan 2012-05-03 04:45
Hi Christian,

I also found your words very helpful and would like to thank you also for the hint of this teaching, to which I've listened now several times already.
I'm thankful, because my impression is, that the topic of "love & relationship" somehow is not that often spoken of in such a direct and concrete way as in this teaching. It is also remarkable that he specifically mentions that traditional Buddhist teachings speak of relationship/lo ve only as something with a negative conotation.

But what I like most about this teaching is how he courageously tells us about his own experience of falling in love. This is outstanding, I find!

Stefan
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+4 # Christian 2012-05-06 22:43
Dear Stefan,
for me, DJKR's teaching is also a great treasure (I received the link from a friend), especially because, as you say, I didn't find many teachings yet that relate to the love-relationsh ip topic in such a direct and unmistakable way. And hearing that even such a realised and learned master had these painful experiences gives me some hope that I/we might also be able to deal with it in an appropriate way! ;-)
I am really a fan of DJKR's way of writing an communicating and looking at things. It's pretty unconventional, and he really likes to provoke, which helps to shift the mind. I don't know if you know this movie about him it's called "Words of my perfect teacher": www.youtube.com/.../ It's not really new, but I found it very interesting.
Also, if you should be a Ngöndro practitioner, there is a amazing Ngöndro commentary by him, which is available online.
Good luck an all the best -- Christian
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0 # Stefan 2012-05-07 03:24
Hey Christian,

I actually happen to be a Ngöndro practitioner. Are you refering to the teaching on the same page, #10 Advice on Ngondro?

Thanks for the hint to the documentary. I am right now enjoying it!

Stefan
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+1 # Christian 2012-05-10 23:35
Hi Stefan, there is actually a pretty elaborate written commentary by him, I found it a few months ago somewhere "publicly" on the internet, but I couldn't find it when I was searching now. So I copied it into my Dropbox, you can download it with this link: dl.dropbox.com/.../...
It inspired and helped me a lot, maybe it does the same for you. Please let me know when you have it, so I can remove it from the folder.
All the best -- Christian
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0 # Stefan 2012-05-10 23:53
Thanks, I downloaded it!
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0 # Christian 2012-06-02 16:43
Hi Stefan, as you are a Ngöndro practitioner, you might be interested in another commentary (specifically on the Dudjom Tersar Ngöndro) by Thinley Norbu, "A cascading waterfall of nectar". You can find it for example here: www.amazon.de/.../1590303385. I downloaded it as Kindle book and just started to read, so I can't say much about my own experience at the moment. All the best - Christian
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0 # chama 2012-05-11 17:07
Thank you, I downloaded it too.


chama
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0 # chama 2012-05-12 17:39
Christian, I would have liked very much to see this video but it's sort of being blocked with the information that it is private! Can you tell me what I have to do to have access to it? Thanks Chama
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0 # chama 2012-05-12 17:44
Excuse me, it was Stefan I was referring to regarding the youtube Video! It's a pity that one has
no possibility to cancel or correct ones comment afterwards..
Chama
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0 # chama 2012-05-06 11:41
Dear Christian,
thank you so much for your article enlighening and affirming the long known psychological truth of 'projection' in love relations in your own and special way. It's a big difference to know something only through your intellect or exploring it spiritually with the result of finding our hopes and needs for romantic relationships a delusion. Science of psycholinguisti c deals with this subject of comunication between persons and I remember very well the task we had to do during my univerity- time. We had to research over the 'true' meaning of words in a discussion and I was lucky to catch one with my actual boyfriend at that time registering it on a tape. Afterwards it was really surprising finding out by listening and writing it down that what I had said, what I had intended and felt in the end were 3 really completely different matters. It was understood that for my partner it should have been the
same and I was wondering why we could have stayed together even that short time. In the meantime I am
convinced that those deep expectations - specially when there are even difficult patterns deriving from childhood deficits as you described it so well are not to be satisfyed outside ourselves.
Chama
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+1 # Christian 2012-05-06 23:00
Dear Chama,
it looks like you studied some really interesting stuff! And if all of us would make an "experiment" like you did it with your boyfriend, we would have much less trouble and much less unrealistic expectations!! This should be even taught at school! (I think at an age of 16 or 17, today most of the young people would be very ready for this kind of lessons.)
Regarding expectations: at least I am finding out more and more what my expectations actually were/are, to be able to deal with them ...;-) And I also become aware that a lot of what I tried to find in relationships (like that feeling of unity) can only be found inside me, in my spiritual development. But still I'm trying to find out, how a healthy and "appropriate" love-relationsh ip could look like. Well, it's always good to carry these questions with us, isn't it!?
All the best -- Christian
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0 # chama 2012-05-06 14:17
By the way I cant
find the mentioned podcast on the given link. There are
no 18 but only 9 listed. Could you tell the title please.

Thank you.
chama
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0 # chama 2012-05-06 14:19
I found it finally on my laptop not on my tab. Thanks!
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0 # Christian 2012-05-06 22:45
Yes, I had the same problem on the tab! Good that you looked again!
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+1 # chama 2012-05-07 15:30
Christian, it was during my Germanistik studies when I was attending university and too late as I was 25 at that time and already ruined :-) by stupid typical female education expecting all those romantic stuff from boys...Today I'm far more richer in experience but as I listened to that podcast yesterday I felt almost like crying when I had to admit before myself that it would take me a lot of courage allowing myself being involved another time in mature age investing my energy in such - at the end - useless painful stories that had to finish by nature destination in further lonleyness. And the doublesided feelings of this kind of bewichment and illusion I could experience last autumn when one specially nasty 'wind of karma' blew my against a young man of 23 who could have been easily my son - I felt in such a happy, easy and swinging mood all the time when I was near him but at the same time already
anticipating the bitter end and the unavoidable fall.
Wishing the best
chama
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+1 # Christian 2012-05-10 23:24
Dear Chama, reading through your lines, I can really feel some of the pain that you must have felt back then, and then lately last autumn. Myself, I cannot add much to this that wouldn't sound stupid or dispensable. I think what I personally try to work on is to transform the exciting feelings into pure, "empty" bliss, the painful feelings into a compassion that I pray to become boundless. Anyway.... may all our hurtful and happy experiences become, by some blessing, stepping stones to more insight, and eventually enlightenment.
Love -- Christian
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0 # Francois 2012-07-06 09:17
Hi Christian,

so well said! This information would be of tremendous help to many adolescents, who's major concern in that part of their life is in fact "to find a partner". They all heva to find out this for themselves, and even after several devorces will perhaps never find it out. I could save a lot of hardship. At least I will send it to my children, perhaps they can benefit from it.
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0 # Christian 2012-07-08 13:41
Dear Francois,
yes, it's a great great pity that these topics are not being taught at schools in an appropriate way, like so many others that would be of much more help for our lives than mathematics!! (Don't get me wrong, I like mathematics.) Looking back, it is absolutely no wonder that my own and so many other relationships caused so much pain and trouble, because there was simply no guidance and no "role models" in our childhood.
I really wish that these basic insights are made available more and more for young people, stripped off their "religious connotations", so that they can lead a much more healthy and beneficial life!
At least, this website/blog, like many other efforts and places, is a beginning. (Isn't it great that we have all these communication tools today, and that we can use them in this way!?) Yes, may your children benefit, and, if they choose to engage in relationships, may they be joyful and healthy!
All the best -- Christian
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